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January 17, 2010 By Fausta

Looks like the Himalayan glaciers will still be around for a while

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World misled over Himalayan glacier meltdown

A WARNING that climate change will melt most of the Himalayan glaciers by 2035 is likely to be retracted after a series of scientific blunders by the United Nations body that issued it.

It turns out the claim was made by an Indian scientist, and never documented,

Hasnain has since admitted that the claim was “speculation” and was not supported by any formal research. If confirmed it would be one of the most serious failures yet seen in climate research. The IPCC was set up precisely to ensure that world leaders had the best possible scientific advice on climate change.

Then some other guy must have done a google search and came across that story, and from there it was just a matter of time before it became a full-blown lie to push for policy change and put the squeeze on the developed countries,

The New Scientist report was apparently forgotten until 2005 when WWF cited it in a report called An Overview of Glaciers, Glacier Retreat, and Subsequent Impacts in Nepal, India and China. The report credited Hasnain’s 1999 interview with the New Scientist. But it was a campaigning report rather than an academic paper so it was not subjected to any formal scientific review. Despite this it rapidly became a key source for the IPCC when Lal and his colleagues came to write the section on the Himalayas.

When finally published, the IPCC report did give its source as the WWF study but went further, suggesting the likelihood of the glaciers melting was “very high”. The IPCC defines this as having a probability of greater than 90%.

Or, as Just One Minute put it, Now It Is The IPCC That Is Melting Down.

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Filed Under: Global Warming, science Tagged With: Fausta's blog, Himalayas, IPCC, scams

Comments

  1. Anna Keppa says

    January 17, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    Since the Khumbu glacier pictured is at an altitude of roughly 17,000 feet, it is damned hard to see how it could be melting due to increasing CO2 concentrations in the air. At that altitude almost 70% of the atmosphere is ..not there! Sounds do not carry, especially at lower frequencies: everything sounds faint, distant and “tinny”. Been there, done that.

  2. Thomas Smith says

    January 17, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    If you really want to preserve our planet get rid of every two-legged animal that is one point above a chimpanzee including self.

  3. ewetender says

    January 17, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    The IPCC has no credibility; they have repeatedly used flawed data to support their preconceived notion of global warming. The most notable prop they like to point to is the well-traveled Hockey Stick graph. The data used to create the graph is flawed and massaged to produce the desired results.
    A.W. Montford has written a book exposing the myth of the hockey stick graph “THE HOCKEY STICK ILLUSION” Climategate and the corruption of science. The book is not available in US yet, but he has a blog with a ton of information on the CRU and the climategate emails. It is very informative reading.

  4. ewetender says

    January 17, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    Geeezzzzz! The blog is “Bishop Hill” http://bishophill.squarespace.com/

  5. OscarT says

    January 17, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    Is global warming real of fiction. Too many scientists are sounding the alarm. However, there still are people that won’t accept it. Yes, there are some people who will grasp at the latest conspiracy theory. However, don’t forget that for a century after Columbus visited America authorities still taught that the world was flat. Oh, well!

  6. Kathy says

    January 17, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    Last summer, I threw away my twenty year old geology textbook from college. It was worthless. Why? Because in twenty years geology changed THAT much. Just a couple of months ago, I read an article about how 1/3 of all identified dinosaurs were really the infants or young of already identified dinos. Science is an on-going pursuit, and knowledge within science is constantly changing. “Settled” issues in science are few and far between. For us to decide that global warming or climate change is worth all the policy and government control would require a much more thorough vetting than this theory has gotten. But there is so much vested interest in government control, particularly transnational government, that they will hold on to this worthless theory for as long as the public will allow it plus 30 years.

  7. Opus #6 says

    January 19, 2010 at 3:39 am

    I knew there had to be a reason all the original data was thrown in the trash. Embarrassing for some people.

  8. Concerned Reader says

    January 24, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    When properly put in the context of other scientific research, this amounts to nothing more than a misquote by the New Scientist that accidentally got propagated. Mistakes happen, but to say that the “World misled over Himalayan glacier meltdown” is dishonest.

    please see this bloomberg article and read closely
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601130&sid=ayg2jcmPEcVo

    “While Hasnain said he’s made no predictions on when Himalayan glaciers may disappear, they are melting at an “alarming rate,” he said in today’s statement.

    “Can there be any doubt on the pathetic state of the Himalayan glaciers?” Hasnain said. “This has been affirmed by the findings of research works, published in peer-reviewed journals after (the) 1990s as well as the present research work being carried out by me and my team.””

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