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March 23, 2009 By Fausta

The punch drunk plan: keep printing money until people stop buying Treasury Bills

I went out last night and managed to miss this:

Kroft to Obama: Are you punch-drunk?

President Barack Obama said he believes the global financial system remains at risk of implosion with the failure of Citigroup or AIG, which could touch off “an even more destructive recession and potentially depression.”

His remarks came in a“60 Minutes” interview in which he was pressed by Steve Kroft for laughing and chuckling several times while discussing the perilous state of the world’s economy.

What is so funny? Is it “you can’t let a crisis go to waste”, is it incompetence, idiocy, or are things going according to plan?

Blue Crab Boulevard:

The psychiatric term “inappropriate affect” comes to mind here.

There are two possibilities here. Either Obama is intentionally, malignantly causing a meltdown in the economy or he is completely – and I mean completely – clueless about how his words and actions impact the economy.

But back to the transcript:

STEVE KROFT:

How are you finding the job?

BARACK OBAMA:

It’s exhilarating. It’s challenging you know, I– I find that– the governance part of it, the decision making part of it– actually comes– comes pretty naturally. I think I’ve got a great team. I think we’re making good decisions.

Hello! What team? The Treasury’s sending the economy down the path of doom and there’s no one who wants to work there.

Earlier in the interview, more chuckles!

PRESIDENT OBAMA:
And— and— and— and Warren still does support me. But I think that understand Warren’s also a big player in the financial markets who’s a major owner of Wells Fargo. And so he’s got a perspective from the perspective of somebody who— is part owner of a bank. You’ve got members of Congress who’ve got a different perspective. Which is, “We don’t want to spend any more taxpayer money.” You’ve got— a whole host of players, all of whom may have a completely different solution. (LAUGHS) Right?

And— you know, one of the challenges that Tim Geithner— has had— is the same challenge that anybody would have in this situation.

people want a lot of contradictory things. You know, the— the— the banks would love a lot of taxpayer money with no strings attached. Folks in Congress, as well as the American people, would love to fix the banks without spending any money. (LAUGHS) And so at a certain point, you know, you’ve got just a— a very difficult line— to— to walk.
…
BARACK OBAMA:
I’ve told them directly. ‘Cause I’ve heard some of this. they need to spend a little time outside of New York. Because— you know, if you go to North Dakota, or you go to Iowa, or you go to Arkansas, where folks would be thrilled to be making $75,000 a year— without a bonus, then I think they’d get a sense of why people are frustrated.

I think we have to understand the severity of the crisis that we’re in right now. The fact is that, because of bad bets made on Wall Street, there have been enormous losses.

I mean there were a whole bunch of folks who, on paper, if you looked at quarterly reports, were wildly successful, selling derivatives (CHUCKLE) that turned out to be—

STEVE KROFT:
Worthless.

BARACK OBAMA:
completely worthless.

The abysmal lack of understanding this little exchange demonstrates makes my head spin.

Anywhoo…

So the administration will go on printing more money… until when? Until people stop buying T-Bills.

I kid you not.

STEVE KROFT:
Is there some limit to the amount of money we can spend?

PRESIDENT OBAMA:
Yes.

STEVE KROFT:
Or print trying to solve this crisis?

PRESIDENT OBAMA:
There is.

STEVE KROFT:
And are we getting close to it?

PRESIDENT OBAMA:
The— the limit is our ability to— finance— these expenditures through borrowing. And, you know, the United States is fortunate that it has— the largest, most stable economic and political system— around. And so the dollar is still strong because people are still buying Treasury Bills. They still think that’s the safest investment out there.

If we don’t get a handle on this, and also start looking at our long-term deficit projections, at a certain point people will stop buying— those— Treasury Bills.

Long-term readers of this blog and people who know me know that I scrupulously avoid using the “F” word, but there’s a time and place for it.

Here’s the place, now is the time, my friends.

If “the plan” to “fix the economy” is to keep printing money until people stop buying Treasury Bills, we are fucked.

How’s that for a chuckle?

UPDATE
Economic suicide and revolution

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Comments

  1. expat says

    March 23, 2009 at 8:31 am

    That line about Fargo reminded me of Obama’s reaction to his time in the state legislature, when theoretically he should have been dealing with the problems of non-Chicago Illinois: he was bored. Only as president does he get to assume his natural role of ordering around people who may, in some cases, actually have accommplished something.

  2. Steve Spinks says

    March 23, 2009 at 9:19 am

    Great analysis as usual, Fausta! This administration truly is clueless. But they look great on TV!

  3. Nalora says

    March 23, 2009 at 9:30 am

    He has never governed. He has never led. He is not a leader. He has no clue what he is doing– he is making it up while he goes along, and unfortunately the American Way of life is the lab rat.

    Nal

  4. Anthony (Los Angeles) says

    March 23, 2009 at 11:01 am

    If “the plan” to “fix the economy” is to keep printing money until people stop buying Treasury Bills, we are fucked.

    That one sentence is the equal of many, many column inches in the WSJ. 🙂

  5. Pat Patterson says

    March 23, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    It should be noted the Milton Friedman argued for just such buying if these bonds were available. He argued that the effects of the Depression were reversing themselves between 1933 and 1937 precisely because the Fed bought the bonds and thus pumped large amounts of liquidity into the system. Bernarke recently echoed the Freidman idea by stating the Fed could start throwing money out the doors of helicopters until the economy began heating up and only slowing down growth by cutting the supply to match certain inflation goals.

    http://online.barrons.com/article/SB123741712818477613.html

  6. Fausta says

    March 23, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    Pat, explain to me how a deficit >5% of GDP and having 7 out of every $10 go to service that debt is going to “fix the economy,” because for the life of me I can’t figure that one out on my own.

  7. Pat Patterson says

    March 23, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    I’m not really arguing one way or another just that Friedman was emphasizing that monetary policy should be the main response to a recession not fiscal policy. How much money is available vs how it is spent. At the end of World War II public debt was 120% of GDP so obviously the problem can be solved

  8. alan says

    March 26, 2009 at 9:40 am

    ok..now let me see… I’ve done Jay.
    Now I’ve got to do David and Jon Stewart and ,of course,Oprah and ,maybe, “The View”.
    That should get my $3 trillion budget passed!!!

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