That excellent government-provided “free healthcare” in France

Back in 2003 15,000 elderly and infirm people died during a heat wave in France, many of them while waiting in hospital emergency rooms. The government-provided “free healthcare” has been, and continues to be, a disaster. Currently, 10,000 people die every year of “medical accidents”, and there are an estimated 300,000 to 500,000 “serious undesirable events” i.e., errors per year.

Erik Svane of No Pasarán has been following the story here and here.

The original article (in French) first came out at JDD on January 10, and the numbers were quoted by Dr. Philippe Juvin,, professor of anesthesia and head of the emergency room at Beaujon Hospital. Dr. Juvin is also national secretary for health for the UMP party.

French Minister for Health Roselyne Bachelot confirmed Dr. Juvin’s numbers on January 14 (article in French).

Just so you know.

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7 Responses to “That excellent government-provided “free healthcare” in France”

  1. Anthony (Los Angeles) Says:

    And with a new Administration coming next week dedicated to giving us our own state-run health system, this news just fills me with Hope and makes me anxious for Change.

    Excuse me while I go sing Hosannas to the Dear Leader….

  2. Fausta Says:

    Just don’t get sick.

  3. Flattered & Blushing linkaround | The Anchoress Says:

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  4. Paul Says:

    Our present system has errors, too.

    Our population is greater than France’s.
    What are the PER CAPITA error rates compared to ours?

  5. Erik S Says:

    The main point is not the per capita error rates, Paul. The main point is that the **usual** ways of calculating American errors and what-have-you are much **tougher** than French (and European) — i.e., state-controlled — ones.

  6. Gringo Says:

    As support for Eric’s point, which Fausta should have made in her original posting, here is a quote from one of the No-Pasaran postings Fausta linked to.

    This 10,000 deaths figure was arrived at usingAmerican statistical methods
    When one French doctor tried calculating his country’s statistics, using the American model, it turned out that the system “only” produced the trifling number of… 10,000 deaths a year.

    Regarding the less rigorous European health statistics, there are also indications that the differences in Infant Mortality rates between European countries and the US are actually statistical artifacts.

  7. Pat Patterson Says:

    Adding to what Erik S. said here and at NP one of the problems is simply that there is no agreement, outside of the WHO and using OECD numbers, that makes it possible to compare. In fact the French numbers are based on a 2005 study in the US and are extrapolations not actual events. The two threads at NP that dealt directly and obliquely eventually contained over 75+ comments and the result via many excellent comments was that the US gathers its numbers differently than the rest of the world and makes the the different rankings moot.

    As to the per capita claim, assuming the numbers are correct, there were 10% more “accidents” in France. But again when one considers the utter unreliability of these numbers is like arguing how many fairies are dancing on the head of a pin.